A Hip Hop Republican breaks one off

Let me clear my throat…

Being black and conservative is not easy. The left has a presumptive hold on “authentic blackness,” leaving black conservatives political isolated from their communities. As the Republican Party falls more and more deeply in love with Dixie, it is getting harder for African-Americans with any backbone to retain a place in the GOP. Their presence is tolerated, even celebrated, so long as they read from a prepared script. If they dare to try to influence the party’s direction they will be promptly escorted to the RINO pen to while away the hours with Colin Powell.

The Cliven Bundy flap may be a bridge too far for many self-respecting black conservatives. For a colleague at Hip Hop Republican, the support for Bundy from “conservative” media and political figures inspired an eloquent outburst. From Chidike Okeem at hiphoprepublican.com:

I am proud African man and a proud conservative. I refuse to accept that being a conservative means apologizing for racists and white supremacists who do not acknowledge my humanity. If it means I have to stand alone and forcefully articulate an idiosyncratic conservative worldview that does not involve my dehumanization, then so be it.

You cannot be a proud black person and make a career out of defending right-wing racists. If only people would listen to the totality of Dr. Martin Luther King’s sociopolitical message, as opposed to twisting his 1963 speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in service of their invidious colorblind agenda. Artificial black conservatives are as, or even more, dangerous than white supremacists. At least white supremacists tell you what they truly believe. Artificial black conservatives just repeat white supremacist beliefs for financial security and emotional blandishments—and I find it repulsive.

Guys like Tim Scott and T.W. Shannon are making their own peace with the racist forces that drive the Tea Party and the rest of the far right. So be it. It will be interesting to see the where their paths lead. But for many others the cognitive dissonance is becoming too much to tolerate.

Chris Ladd is a Texan living in the Chicago area. He has been involved in grassroots Republican politics for most of his life. He was a Republican precinct committeeman in suburban Chicago until he resigned from the party and his position after the 2016 Republican Convention. He can be reached at gopliferchicago at gmail dot com.

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85 comments on “A Hip Hop Republican breaks one off
  1. Houston-stay-at-Homer says:

    I’m happy to concede that the Democrats have done very little to help minority members.

    I’ll happily go with the GOP/TP not being any more racist than any other political group.

    Heck, we’ll even just work under the assumption that Democrats are the “real racists”.

    Working under the assumption that all these things are true, how does the GOP/TP reverse a two or three decade long trend of minorities and women voting for Democrats by double digit margins?

    All of the groups the GOP/TP has lost are growing, while the percentage of White males is shrinking.

    Surely this is something that might get someone’s attention.

  2. DanMan says:

    you hear that Tim Scott? Allan West? get back on the damn plantation!! Mia Love, Lynn Swann, Herman Cain? Get your fake black conservatism outta here!!! Starr Parker just STFU! Ben Carson, TW Shannon get your Uncle Tom asses off my lawn!

    Meanwhile back at the ranch…let’s sit back and enjoy the temperate musings of our wonderful pastor Jeremiah Wright. “We started the AIDS virus. We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty.”

    er…um, Let’s see what made Elijah Cummings go silent all at once…Emails released by House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, a California Republican, show that Cummings’ Democratic staff had requested information from the IRS’ tax-exempt division, the one headed by Lois Lerner, on True the Vote, a conservative group that monitors polling places for voter fraud and supports the use of voter IDs, something Cummings opposes. “The IRS and the Oversight Minority made numerous requests for virtually identical information from True the Vote, raising concerns that the IRS improperly shared protected taxpayer information with Rep. Cummings’ staff,” the Oversight panel said in a statement.

    How about Chally Rangel on Hillary Clinton…“Her biggest asset is her greatest liability: She’s not one of the boys in the old boy’s network – which I am a part of,”

    Harry Reid – Obama could become the country’s first black president because he was “light-skinned” and had “no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.”

    Joe Biden – Mr. Obama was “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”

    Hey Chris, when you ain’t got nuthin’ you got nuthin’ to lose. And you ain’t got nuthin’.

    • Anse says:

      Herman Cain didn’t even survive the primaries, so I’m not sure how you can blame his demise on liberals.

      • DanMan says:

        David Axelrod’s sludge machine produced a sketchy witness with sketchy accusations that just so happened to live in David Axelrod’s apartment building. What are the odds?

      • Anse says:

        It’s probably a good thing to know that Republican voters are so easily swayed by liberals. I’m not sure that reflects well on Republicans, honestly.

      • kabuzz61 says:

        Anse, I have met some dense people but I never met people who liked to act dense. Grow up.

      • bubbabobcat says:

        Um buzzy, if you surgically remove your blinders you will see the epitome of willfully dense in yourself and your brethren. But we all know that will never happen.

      • Anse says:

        It’s that old obsession with the “liberal media”…apparently rightwingers are completely immune to the hypnotizing powers of Rachel Maddow and Stephen Colbert and MSNBC and CNN…until David Axelrod decides to get into the mix, then they suddenly lose all sense and follow their marching orders.

  3. Bobo Amerigo says:

    Race is a fascinating topic and always appropriate in this country.

    Here’s a link to a recent series by Pro Publica on the re-segregation of schools and housing. With data.


    It reminds me how jim crow emerged after the civil war.

  4. Anse says:

    As long as Republicans believe Democrats are Democrats because we all want hand-outs, then the suspicions on race in the GOP will be very hard to get over. Democrats get the most Hispanic voters, the most black voters, the most Jewish voters, and the most Asian voters, and we’re still a party that’s about 30% white. To characterize us as the “true racists,” as so many Republicans love to do, is just to bury their heads in the sand on this issue.

    We had slavery for over 200 years, from colonial times to Reconstruction. We had Jim Crow and institutionalized, legal racism until the 1960’s. We’ve only had about two generations of legal equality and we’re still working on the true social equality we all want. This is not going to happen overnight. But it will happen. You may be tired of the issue, but it’s been with us since the founding of the nation. It’s just not going to go away because you want it to go away.

  5. billlincoln2 says:

    Press release: ‘De facto’ discrimination, or de facto slavery? Employers are allowed to mistreat Blacks in S.C…US Court.

    US District Court, Charleston, SC; Employers, mistreating Blacks with undeserved difficulty in the workplace, are not guilty of discrimination. Imagine the public outcry if a dog was mistreated?

    The case now goes to the Supreme Court with this question.
    1. QUESTION PRESENTED filed to the Supreme Court Justices on 4-21-2014.
    “ Is it in the public interest to know that a US District Court, after reviewing evidence, ruled that a ‘group of executive White people were actually mistreating a Black employee and causing him undeserved difficulty at work’, but still did not find them guilty of racial discrimination or creating a hostile working environment ”?
    1. William Lincoln filed a racial discrimination lawsuit in 2012 at the US District Court in Charleston, SC (Civil Action No. 2:11-3234-DCN-BHH).
    2. An abundance of evidence was given to the Court to substantiate the claim of racial discrimination, including the replacement of 90 per cent of the Black instructors with White instructors, in less than a year. He was the only Black instructor left.
    3. This is the mentality and actual ruling of the US District Court of the 4th District;
    “The Court would acknowledge that the plaintiff may have legitimately faced some mistreatment or undeserved difficulty at work”. Some of the facts are irregular. But, there is no evidence that his experience was racially motivated.” (p4. para 1 and 2).
    4. The Appellate Court in Virginia upheld this ruling.
    5. So it is not your imagination that our Courts are mistreating Blacks and are extremely difficult for Black people.
    6. And it is no wonder that our prison system is overflowing with young Black men and women. And White men get away with cold blooded murder of young Black men.

  6. CaptSternn says:

    “Being black and conservative is not easy.”

    Just ask Herman Cain. Remember what the left was saying about him, the names they called him?

    • Crogged says:

      He didn’t have to utter one coherent thought in the race for the Presidency and now commands 6 figure appearance fees. I say he’s brilliant.

      • DanMan says:

        I saw him speak at a friend’s graduation from the Bauer College of Business at UH about 10 years ago. He is very brilliant and has been a motivational speaker for years.

      • Anse says:

        “Motivational speaker” = hustler. Don’t get me wrong, plenty of liberals fall for that garbage.

      • kabuzz61 says:

        Crogged, you just proved our point. Thanks.

    • bubbabobcat says:

      No I don’t “remember” what the left was saying about Herman Cain. Especially since he wasn’t even running against any Democrat was being skewered by his fellow Republicans in the Republican wingnut primary circus.

      Please inform us with sources. We’ll see again how convoluted Cappy’s “thinking” is.

  7. Crogged says:

    This really isn’t that hard. A figure appears in the public eye and excites a media conglomerate or two–take your choice of political leaning here. People discuss the subject from their perspective, then said public figure opens their mouth and you find out they are a big f____g racist. There are Dem BFRs, there are Rep. BFRs. The issue isn’t the party of registration, but is the person a BFR? What was disappointing about Donald Sterling was not his political party registration, but that the NAACP had given him some dumbass award in the past, obviously by ignoring plenty of mostly public evidence of his BFR (and the fact he was on the level of Ted Steptien when it comes to “Most Incompetent NBA Franchise in the Universe”). If someone is a BFR, SAY IT! This will show to other people you at least TRY to not be a BFR, or associate with BFRs. If you are conservative and Republican, you win the sexy ‘maverick’ title formerly held by the idiot who nominated the nut from Alaska for VP.

    • CaptSternn says:

      So you aren’t a BFR, just a BFS.

    • kabuzz61 says:

      First off, since the LA County Clerk is democrat, I will need to see the registration. I find it difficult to believe that the owner of the Clippers would donate to democrats, hang out with Hollywood and register republican. Let’s see the record. Present it.

      • Turtles Run says:

        Buzzy – You really make it too easy. So a Billionaire gives $6,000 to Democrats over twenty years ago then you are ready to tar him as a racists Democrats. You did not need any proof to support that narrative but when you find out he has been a registered Republican since 1998 then all of a sudden you need proof.

        Well here it is.

        Click to access dts-voter-reg.pdf


        It must be tuff when your delusions always get smacked down.

      • flypusher says:

        “It must be tuff when your delusions always get smacked down.”

        No, he’s like those inflatable clowns that pop back up when you smack them. Leave it to Buzzy to whine about partisan sniping, but he couldn’t wait to thread jack with “AH HA!! STERLING iS A DEM!!! BOOYAH!!!!'” When I heard the story my first thought was “what a disgusting bigoted douchebag” rather than “what’s his party affiliation?” Had Buzzy not brought it up it would not have crossed my mind, because it was irrelevant.

      • goplifer says:

        That is priceless. We now have ourselves a Sterling-voter-reg Birther.

      • Turtles Run says:


        “Had Buzzy not brought it up it would not have crossed my mind, because it was irrelevant.”

        Exactly, the far right instead of focusing on Sterling being a dumb-ass they quickly tried to change the narrative to “racist Democrat” but when reality hit all of a sudden they are tripping over themselves trying to hid the fact that he is really a registered Republican.

        This is an excellent example of the GOTP’s inability to realistically deal with racism. When they do try to address racism it is in one of two narratives:

        1. Try to portray minorities and those that support civil rights as the real racists


        2. Whitewishing – When the right wing tries to proclaim that racism is over and that any protections that try to address the issue must be repealed and if racism does occur it is due to (see #1).

  8. way2gosassy says:

    There isn’t a single news source from radio, t.v. local and cable, the internet or print media that has not carried multiple stories on the issue of race. From the Supreme Court to Federal legislators,local politicians, pundits and sports team owners and their reprehensible screed on the issues of race. I find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone in this day can be so naive as to expect others to believe that they think that this is nothing more than theater to appease the masses obscene need to have something to bitch about or beat each other over the head with. These issues are real and they effect real people.

    If you choose to live in an utopian bubble where such things do not happen, you are part of the problem, perhaps the biggest part. A very wise man said once that for evil to exist is for good men to do nothing (or words to that effect).

    • Tuttabella says:

      Sassy, it’s naive to think we can make a difference simply by coming onto blogs such as this one and merely talking about it ad nauseum. The online world is the utopian bubble, an insular, self reinforcing community that is going nowhere, for years on end. You will make more strides helping your new community in Tennessee as you’ve mentioned, helping people, inspiring young minds.

      • Anse says:

        It may be naive to think we can change anything in blogs like this, but it is far and away a better thing to keep it in the conversation, in whatever format it takes, because not talking about it means never accomplishing anything. Simply not talking about something is never the solution to any problem.

      • John Galt says:

        We are clearly seeing that some people, including commenters here, do not acknowledge that racism exists as a significant problem today. When they do acknowledge it, it is certainly not their doing or their problem as they passive aggressively deflect any blame on their political opposites, sort of a knee-jerk response to anything that might be unpleasant to think about. I thought at one point that discussing this in our little corner of the internet might be useful, but it clearly has not been beyond hearing from an insider that the problem is worse than it appears on the surface.

      • Anse says:

        I have a couple of ideas about it. First, it should not be hard to acknowledge that racism is still a problem. Some people take such immediate offense at the notion that they seem to think we’re talking specifically about them, which only makes the other side in the conversation all the more suspicious.

        Conservatives have this very deep and abiding need to avoid discussing the environmental factors that play a role in the success or failure of an individual. It’s a profoundly moralistic worldview. Poverty, as Hermann Cain infamously said, is “your fault,” nobody else’s, as if every individual American is completely empowered to attain whatever level of success they desire, excluding any notion that there are economic forces at work on all of us that are way beyond our control. On the flipside, where liberals mess up is in our obsession with looking to the broadest, “macroeconomic” forces to explain things that happen on an individual basis.

        For example, if Johnny decides to rob a convenience store one day, some people will say Johnny is a bad guy and needs to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Others will say Johnny, as a young African-American living in poverty, has had to carry a burden of racism’s legacy and is a victim of that legacy. Here’s my thinking on it: both are correct. Yes, racism’s ugly legacy is the deprivation of the black community and the mass incarceration of black Americans whose desperation and lack of opportunity drive them to make poor decisions. It is also true that Johnny is an idiot and a bad guy who needs to go to prison. Both explain Johnny’s situation. Johnny’s status as a poor black kid doesn’t mean he shouldn’t pay for his crime. At the same time, if we are going to solve the problems facing the black community or any community, we have to look at those problems within the framework of a larger political and economic context.

        It’s perhaps a more complicated way of looking at things and we all know how hard it is for our politicians to discuss anything that can’t be summed up on a bumper sticker.

    • CaptSternn says:

      There are people that want, need, to keep racisn alive and up front. People like Lifer, Sharpton, Jackson, Quanell X and democrats in general. They thrive on it. It will always exist and from all sides, but it is no longer the major issue they need it to be in order to use it to tehir advantage, always being the victim.

      • Anse says:

        Quanell X is a media hog and profits on his activism. That said, I love the guy, for two reasons. First, he sends white people into an apoplectic rage by his mere presence, which is always entertaining. Second, no matter what anybody may say about the guy, at the very least, he does in fact work within the framework of the law. Every criminal that’s ever reached out to him ends up in the clink. He has never helped any bad guy get out of punishment; he always escorts him directly to the police, even when he expresses support for the suspect in question. He just does it in a way that sends folks into a glassy-eyed fit. As for his anti-Semitic past…he has expressed remorse for it, and has met personally with the local Jewish community to talk about that. I think he deserves some credit for that.

      • DanMan says:

        what ever happened to Charles Freeman? That hustler has disappeared. He was fun to watch too.

      • flypusher says:

        “First, he sends white people into an apoplectic rage by his mere presence, which is always entertaining.”

        I’ll agree on that, and I’ve been entertained too, but I have no respect for someone who would say horrid things about an 11 year old gang rape victim. The guy often leaps into a controversy before looking, but that one was most egregious.

      • Anse says:

        Point taken on the mass rape up in Cleveland. That was plenty horrible. I think this is what happens when you take payola to represent folks. Quanell X works like a lawyer but he’s really just a loudmouth.

      • CaptSternn says:

        Q-X stood up and defended a guy that used a stolen vehicle to run down a lady and her husband while his brother was busy stealing their car, then used another stolen vehicle to threaten officers while in the process of stealing yet another truck the following day. That was close to home for me and that made it personal.

      • Crogged says:

        Here’s an interesting scenario–Enron declared bankruptcy-people on street without a check despite an agreement between Enron and employees about severance. A black political figure who’s public persona is very well known took up the cause and at least got the estate to make a one time payment of ‘severance’ to Enron employees. He was self interested, and it was a ‘look at me’ stunt–but I always wondered if any Enron employees returned this severance payment in objection of being part of political theater?

      • kabuzz61 says:

        I try not to use the word stupid but Anse and Crogged are so very close.

      • flypusher says:

        ” Quanell X works like a lawyer but he’s really just a loudmouth.”

        Indeed. A common theme of the white people’s conniption fits is why is he always advocating for black people in trouble but never white people? I find that to be a stupid basis for objecting, as a person has the right to pick and choose which causes he/ she wishes to champion. What should be upsetting is rather that in a dispute with different races involved he tends to immediately jump to the defense of the black person(s) involved before weighing where the fault lies. The Cleveland atrocity was a perfect example- if they’ve got video of you doing the crime, game over man.

  9. tuttabellamia says:

    I’ve been posting on comments boards for just over 4 years, and I keep reading about past explosive topics (Hillary, Palin, Candidate Obama, and of course Bush), and it seems like there’s just a reshuffling of topics but still the same players with the same grievances day in and day out. Ok, I know my 4 years is a long time, but I just can’t fathom the thought of people doing this on a constant basis for over a decade, with no end in sight. I mean, Cap has been at this since 1999. Wow.

    • tuttabellamia says:

      Correction. Posting for just UNDER 4 years.

    • kabuzz61 says:

      I have been around these parts for just as long as the good Captain. I am not sure I get your point. Do I expect anything on this blog? No. Never have. This is entertainment, and every once in awhile civility reigns and there comes a worthwhile debate of ideas. But most of the time, it is just hit and hit back. Of course it starts with the post. If Chris wants to have a civil debate, he will post something that is entirely true to both parties and not edit pieces to fit his view.

      I don’t take any jabs personally, my life goes on regardless of what is said here and I mostly look at this as entertainment.

    • CaptSternn says:

      Sometimes minds do change. My opinions on certain subjects have changed over time.

  10. Houston-stay-at-Homer says:

    It seems that many folks on the right are a bit tired of, upset with, unhappy about, or maybe just bored of the postings about race and the GOP.

    I would argue that demographic (gender, race, and age) diversity in the GOP is one of, if not the, biggest political issues of our time. Not only would the GOP be better with more representation and voices of women, minorities, and young people, but the country would be better off as well.

    Why would a GOP supporter focus on race? Let’s look at Presidential elections:

    Since 1972, the GOP has lost the Black vote by at least 60%, and up to over 80%.

    Since 1972, the GOP has lost the Hispanic vote by at least 20% other than Bush 2004. Other than 2004, that trend has consistently widened since 1972.

    In 1992, Asians were solidly GOP by over 10%, in 1996 it flipped, and the trend has grown to a 40%+ edge to the Democrats

    The GOP has lost the female vote since 1998.

    Now, why would this matter to a major political party in 2014?

    In 2000, White folks made up 69% of the US population. In 2010, Whites were 64%. The groups that are growing are groups that haven’t voted for a GOP president in 20 years.

    The only demographic subgroup the GOP has consistently won over the past 20 years, White males, make up 32% of the population. It is hard to win elections with such a narrow base.

    If minority groups ever get close to the voting turnout rates of Whites, the GOP will have a monumental struggle in any large election.

    The GOP can win in 2016 by winning the White vote by 20%, but only if they can cut into the minority voting gaps. Otherwise, they would have to win the White vote by over 30%, and there really is no way that is going to happen.

    I think the usual rebuttals likely will include, “we don’t need to pander to minorities”, some version of brainwashing by the liberal media, and some hope that the Democrats will screw things up so royally that everyone flocks to the GOP.

    In general, I’m not sure those are effective enough campaign strategies to alter 20 years of demographic voting trends.

    The first topic on every GOP meeting agenda should be: “How do we attract more female and minority voters”.

    • Houston-stay-at-Homer says:

      Just a quick typo…”The GOP has lost the female vote since 1998″, should read “…since 1988”.

    • tuttabellamia says:

      BORED is right. That was the first word that came to mind but I didn’t want to be rude, but since you brought it up, thanks.

    • tuttabellamia says:

      “How do we attract more female and minority voters?”
      I KNOW! If they agree with you, praise them for being open-minded. If they don’t, scold them and tell them they need to think for themselves. And of course, tell them how a “real” minority is supposed to behave.

      • Houston-stay-at-Homer says:

        Well, Tutt, that does seem to be the predominant strategy, and it doesn’t seem to be working.

      • way2gosassy says:

        Just asking but did you read the piece written by the black conservative Chris attributed in his piece?

      • CaptSternn says:

        HT, what do you mean that it doesn;t seem to be working. According to your comment, it is working very well.

      • Houston-stay-at-Homer says:

        Stern…it certainly seems as though the GOP/TP strategy of praising conservative minority members and chastising non-conservative minority members as being brainwashed seems to not exactly have resonated with folks.

        But hey, maybe if you just say it more often and louder, the message will sink in.

      • CaptSternn says:

        You have it backwards, HT. It is the left that chastises any women or “minorities” that don’t tow the line and say what they are supposed to say, that tell women to “think for themselves” if they speak of conservative values. A black person that speaks of conservative values is called Uncle Tom and told they are not really black. They are not behaving the way a “real minority” should behave.

      • Houston-stay-at-Homer says:

        Well Stern…that is interesting. I mean, just look at this quote:

        “Because many African-Americans have been brainwashed into not being open-minded, not even considering a conservative point of view. So it’s just brainwashing and people not being open-minded, pure and simple”

        Said by a racist Democrat or by a Black conservative running for President?

        I mean, that certainly sounds like praising folks for being open minded if they agree with you and scolding them for not thinking for themselves when they don’t.

        Heck, there are some of your compatriots here on this blog that have tossed around the “brainwashed” suggestion more than a few times.

    • kabuzz61 says:

      The most important think the dem’s need to ask is how did they attract the minority vote? Answer that and you will see the problem.

      • Houston-stay-at-Homer says:

        Hey Buzz…I’ll bite at this one.

        The Democrats have done precious little to benefit minorities in general, but I think you could make an argument that not actively insulting or dismissing whole groups of people is a better strategy than the standard GOP strategy when it comes to race (and gender).

        I think we could possibly blow our collective minds and flip your question around a bit. What did the GOP do to attract such an overwhelming White male vote while simultaneously losing every other group by over 20%?

    • Manhattan says:

      Houston, you also forgot the rebuttal “Sell our souls and become Democrats”

  11. John Galt says:

    I was going to repost, for old time’s sake, the Lee Atwater quote in an early ’80s interview and in searching for the exact text found this column, which contains a quote from Bill Bennett which is even more repulsive. It is worth noting that Atwater and Bennett were not some fringe figures, they were intellectual driving forces of the GOP for two decades.

    It is basically impossible for any party to have national electoral success in monocolor in today’s America. This is basic demography. This leaves the GOP to do one of three things: expand the spectrum of people to whom they appeal, drum up ever more strident support amongst their base, or suppress voting amongst groups least likely to vote red. I see a lot of evidence for two of the three, care to guess which is conspicuous in its absence?

    • kabuzz61 says:

      Silly, very silly comment. The GOP needs no advice from a leftist.

    • Bobo Amerigo says:

      I didn’t know that Bennett said that. That’s simply horrible.

    • flypusher says:

      ‘A Republican who served in the Reagan cabinet, Mr. Bennett told his listeners: ”I do know that it’s true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could — if that were your sole purpose — you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down.” ‘

      Why, why, why would anyone with any political experience ever consider saying something like that? There is no way to twist or sugarcoat such a notion to prevent it from blowing up in your face. Bennett was smart and experienced enough to know better.

      If you mandated abortions in all below the poverty line families or of all male fetuses you’d put even a bigger dent in the crime rate, but it should be glaringly obvious why this “cure” is far, far worse than the “disease”. You don’t need to say stupid and shocking things to direct people’s attention to this issue.

      • Bobo Amerigo says:

        That’s it: Bennett is politically experienced and yet he said it. It must come from his heart.

      • flypusher says:

        It’s very much like Huckabee’s recent slip, Bobo. You get that little glimpse of what they really think about women.

    • John Galt says:

      Can you point to something wrong about my prescription, Kabuzz? Is there something else that will win the GOP the White House other than convincing more people to vote for their guy than the other guy?

  12. goplifer says:

    The party’s racial problems are utterly repugnant. They skew everything else we try to do. Race is the single most important issue in Republican politics and no one is allowed to talk about it. I’ll stop writing out it when it no longer stands in the way of every laudable policy goal.

    That may be a while.

    • CaptSternn says:

      Your racial problems are utterly repugnant. They skew everything else we try to do. Race is the single most important issue in your politics and you always to talk about it. You will stop writing out it when it no longer stands in the way of every laudable policy goal.

      That may be a while.

      Fixed that for you.

    • CaptSternn says:

      You know, when my dear lady finally calls you on the point of being focused on race, it reminds me of a line from a movie …

      “The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it’s time to go shopping for a saddle.”

      I think you need to be shopping for a saddle, Lifer.

    • tuttabellamia says:

      Well, Lifer, if you feel it’s that important, so be it. I take back the part about YOU turning it into theater. You present a serious approach to the topic, and then many of your blog visitors, both left and right, turn it into a spectacle – ‘OMG, lookie there what that guy said.’ For too many people, it’s become little more than a game. It’s about attacking you, and each other, and the Black community is all but forgotten, reduced to mere pawns in the bloodsport of politics. That’s what I have a problem with.

  13. tuttabellamia says:

    Maybe not race per se, but the treatment of race within the GOP. I agree it’s an important topic to address, but you seem overly preoccupied with it.

    And no, I’m not saying you’re racist, just overly focused on it – just like the media in general. People seem to feed on the rush caused by the outrage, like lab mice pressing on the lever to give themselves a thrill. At some point it ceases being about improving the GOP, or making the world a better place, and becomes more about getting that special rush of outrage, and then spreading it far and wide.

    Hey, let’s go out and put microphones in everyone’s faces and let them talk and talk until they say something racist, and go spread the word. OMG, can you BELIEVE what he said??

    And NO this is NOT denial that racism exists, but the constant theater over race just cheapens this very serious and important topic.

    • CaptSternn says:

      Theater of the Absurd?

    • bubbabobcat says:

      Tutt that may be your perspective but obviously a lot of other people have a different perspective. You may call it “theater” but as already noted here, the continued discussion is important as denial and burying your head in the sand and even diminishing the extent of racism only legitimizes it and allows it to fester.

      Bill Lincoln has already noted how that racism infected the Federal Appeals court in South Carolina. Shall we just let that go?

      Everyone is allowed their First Amendment right to free speech, but where are we as a country that someone like Cliven Bundy feels no shame or no qualms whatsoever in espousing his 150 year old racist views? And has all those (White only) right wing supporters?

      I have higher standards than “we are not lynching and beating as many Black people any more, alles ist gut.”

  14. CaptSternn says:

    Racist forces don’t drive the tea party movement. There have been some liberal infiltrators that tried to put that on the face of the tea party movement, and they have been exposed as liberal infiltrators. Those that are labeled as “minorities” must either tow the liberal/progressive/democratic line or they are told they are not real “minorities”, sit down, shut up, go to the back of the bus.

    But you cling to the Bundy case like a life perserver while in the vast ocean of reality. There were one or two conservative politicians that embraced his struggle, but most have not and even those that did denounced Bundy’s racial comments. There is the question of treaties the federal government has agreed to. We know from history how the federal government honors treaties. You are in line with violating treaties and the near extermination of the American Indians, partly my blood ancestors.

    People claim that conservative radio hosts embraced him, while they were only asking if the federal government and Obama administration were taking it too far, like Ruby Ridge and Waco (Hannity) or those simply saying stay away (Beck). I haven’t heard of or read what Limbaugh said on the matter.

    Maybe the Obama administration went after Bundy with such a vengeance because he is a Mormon? The federal government has always had it in for Mormons. A governor once even called for their extermination. Or did the Obama administration do it because Bundy is white, and the left is so very focused on race? Because you are so focused on race?

    There was that guy that said he would hide behind women and children in defense of Bundy, and he had the audacity to claim he is part of the tea party movement. How many of us have you seen defend that guy and the actions he decided on? Zero, zip, zilch, nada … we denounce such things openly and adamantly.

    I would suggest you stop focusing on race and being a racist, but you are on the left and are incapable of doing so. Real and actual conservatives don’t follow your lead, and that is why we are trying so hard to change the Republican Party, the GOP. To keep the GOP from being the DNC Lite you want it to be. You can’t be colorblind and accept all equally because you are too focused on the color of a person’s skin.

    • kabuzz61 says:

      Captain, are we sure Bundy himself isn’t a democrat? No.

      • bubbabobcat says:

        Is that really all you have buzzy? You were orgasmic when you mistakenly thought Sterling was a Democrat and despite incontrovertible proof Bundy is and embodies the significant racist faction of the far right Republicans, you willfully and delusionally cast false aspersions that he is a Democrat? You are beyond pathetic.

  15. Manhattan says:

    He isn’t really, goplifer is angry with how bad the Republican Party devolved on race for the last half-century, the party has made some progress but is also taking steps back with things like Bundy. Is it wrong to be concerned how bad the party looks in terms of tolerating different demographic groups to other groups besides just Republicans?

  16. kabuzz61 says:

    Here is the list:

    1- Conservatives are racist, check
    2- TEA Party is racist, check
    3- Conservatives make black people stick to a script, check.

    Chris, you are off the deep end brother. You obsession and hate for conservatives is making me think you need an intervention. You just plain look silly.

    You and the dem’s hero’s are SJL, Pelosi, Rangle, Jesse Jr., the list goes on.

    Really, seriously, how many more times are you going to rinse and repeat the same blather?

    • CaptSternn says:

      Maybe we could pass a law for Lifer like Houston passed a law for hoarders? It is all subjective. My lady’s favorite antique store could be classified as hoarders.

  17. tuttabellamia says:

    I can’t believe it took so long for it to really sink in but you really are obsessed with race.

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