First glance at 2014 results

Data. My God there is so much data. It’s going to take some time to pull this apart and unfortunately time is at a premium. Here are a few observations and some of the numbers I’ll be combing over.

New Republican Governors in three deep blue states, Illinois, Massachusetts and Maryland, is a very promising development. This is where interesting policy is made. If there is going to be a truly national resurgence of the party its likely to start there.

Republican coat-tails in those blue-state Governors races were short and weak. Whatever Republican “wave” there was Tuesday, it stopped at the big blue wall. Republicans did well in some of the battlegrounds, but failed to win a single Senate race in a blue state. If the Presidential map in 2016 looks like the Senate map 2014, we’ll all be saluting President Clinton. Again. This election did not shift the national dynamic at all.

I’m very interested to see final turnout numbers, particularly in the states that were most aggressive in limiting voting. Clearly, Republicans in this era thrive on poor turnout. How poor was it and why?

Texas isn’t just Republican, it has shifted off the map to become a sort of Baptist Iran. It’s unclear whether the Obama Administration will step in to stop Gov. Abbott from developing nuclear weapons, but they should look into it.

Though Abbott was at the top of the ballot and got all the attention, whack-job Lt. Governor Dan Patrick will now be the most powerful political figure in the country’s second-largest state. The righteous need not fear. The rest of you might want to make some alternate plans.

Most interesting phenomenon of the night – the massive vote gap between winning Republican Governors in the blue states and the other Republicans in the same states who statewide races. Needs more research.

What will life be like for Mitch McConnell for the next two years? That is going to be the worst job in the world.

Finally, Republicans probably collected enough Senate seats on Tuesday to avoid falling into super-minority status in 2016, when they get their turn behind the 8-ball. They’ll be defending 22 seats in 2016, and at least 18 of them are likely to be competitive. They needed this cushion.

Chris Ladd is a Texan living in the Chicago area. He has been involved in grassroots Republican politics for most of his life. He was a Republican precinct committeeman in suburban Chicago until he resigned from the party and his position after the 2016 Republican Convention. He can be reached at gopliferchicago at gmail dot com.

Posted in Election 2014
116 comments on “First glance at 2014 results
  1. She dislikes peace and becomes very bored if the current situation is peaceful. She tells Eru at one point that a Guardian Character that doesn’t even Character Transforms is not needed. Soon after, Eru left Utau, and lru actually became so bored that she wanted Eru to return so she can tease her.

  2. GG says:

    Meanwhile in Colorado the voters in all their wisdom voted for this crackpot.

    He makes Dan Patrick seem sane.

    • Crogged says:

      In 2008 there were 596,000 people in El Paso County. So a whole 2 percent of the population bothered to vote for him

      (yeah, I get the ‘registered voters’ and all that–but do we think the percentage will magically rise?)

      My bad mood is lifting, people in Colorado feel politics are as futile as i do…………


    • flypusher says:

      Gay animal demons- the perfect scapegoat for all your demogoggery needs!!

      • Crogged says:

        San Lorenzo also has its own native religion, Bokononism, a religion based on enjoying life through its untruths. Bokononism, founded by McCabe’s accomplice Boyd Johnson (pronounced “Bokonon” in San Lorenzan dialect), however, is outlawed – an idea Bokonon himself conceived for the purpose of spreading the religion and making the residents of the island happier. Bokononists are liable to be punished by being impaled on a hook, but Bokononism privately remains the dominant religion of nearly everyone on the island, including the leaders who outlaw it. Officially, however, San Lorenzo is a Christian nation.

      • Crogged says:

        No one is immune and we all do it-from Mother Night.

        “The dismaying thing about classic totalitarian mind is that any given gear, though mutilated, will have at its circumference unbroken sequences of teeth that are immaculately maintained, that are exquisitely machined.

        Hence the cuckoo clock in Hell – keeping perfect time for eight minutes and twenty-three seconds, jumping ahead fourteen minutes, keeping perfect time for six seconds, jumping ahead two seconds, keeping perfect time for two hours and one second, then jumping ahead a year.

        The missing teeth, of course, are simple, obvious truths, truths available and comprehensible even to ten-year-olds, in most cases.”

        To keep the ‘teeth’ analogy, your dentist doesn’t have to believe in evolution to clean your teeth. Your government rep doesn’t have to believe anything true about gay humans to get your roads paid for and the trash picked up.

        The dentist and the South and the West, all of our capitalized myths of self sufficiency and striving for the future that F. Scott Fitzgerald and Faulkner told us were really about our past, will go on.

        Now DRINK.

  3. kabuzz61 says:

    Now some of you liberals are stating that the TEA Party will be marginaized. If that is the case, why did the entire country by a huge total majority vote for the GOP and not the dem’s? If you can’t answer that, 2016 will be another disaster for you.

    • flypusher says:

      Multiple reasons, but the fact that the TP didn’t have any luck primary-ing incumbent GOP Senators this year helped a lot. The GOP might have taken the Senate 2 or 4 years ago, but for the likes of Angle and Akin and Mourdock and O’Donnell, etc.

      TP /= the GOP; that implication is the glaring flaw in your statement.

    • goplifer says:

      Republicans lost every Senate race behind the “Blue Wall,” the 270+ electoral vote block that is now solidly Democratic at the national level.

      Every. Single. One.

      Only Virginia was close. It won’t be in a Presidential year.

      In Illinois, Maryland and Mass where very moderate Republicans, too far left to win a Democratic primary in Texas, won governors races, they had no impact at all down the ballot in other state races. None. Here in Illinois, Democrats didn’t lose a single seat in the Assembly. Obama was 0% of their campaign messages.

      At this rate, we don’t even need to have an election in 2016. Republicans aren’t competitive in enough states to compete for 270 electoral votes.

      This was a continuation of a long, depressing pattern in the party. Geographic concentration rather than national appeal. It isn’t just counter-productive, it is deeply dangerous.

      Republicans were the most popular girl at a party no one showed up to. This year Democrats were defending 13 seats, 9 of them in red or purple states. In 2016, Republicans will be defending 22 seats and at least 18 of them will be in play.

      Enjoy two more years of nutjob hearings on Benghazi. Better make it count.

      • kabuzz61 says:

        So regardless if you think the GOP is full of nutjobs, but also moderates and conservatives and liberals, what went wrong for your party?

        My assessment is people do not like arrogance and lately Obama, Reid and Pelosi have shown arrogance no matter how how you and others tried to change the subject to ‘the do nothing house of republicans’. Well, your message didn’t work. People had to examine whether they will believe you or their lying eyes. No one likes arrogance. No one like people that give off a vibe of being better and smarter then you. And by all the excuses and persecution complexes demonstrated here, you just aren’t getting it.

        We discuss policy and ideology but most of the USA doesn’t. They look at the person as a person. I don’t like it either, but it is what it is.

      • texan5142 says:

        I will bet you do not see the arrogance in your post. Pure projection from the cat.

      • johnofgaunt75 says:

        The problem with the Republican Party as it now stands is twofold (at least in my mind).

        One, it is a very ideological party where pragmatism seems to be dismissed in favor of blind ideology. For example, all tax raises, no matter the reason, are bad. Doesn’t matter if the tax is used to fund a bridge that is falling down, fix a road full of pot holes or fund military action.

        Second, it is generally not a welcoming party for people who do not fit the hard-line of the base. The Democratic Party has blue collar people from West Virginia who support the expansion of coal mining, for example. But in the modern Republican Party, if you do not tow the hard-line extreme of the base, you will be primaried and essentially chased out of the party. It suggests a very unwelcoming and, frankly, close minded group of people.

        Will a stronger majority in Congress help the Republicans become more of an inclusive and ore pragmatic party? I don’t know. I would hope so but it remains to be seen.

      • flypusher says:

        The Dems got whacked by things both in their control and out of their control. The fact that so much of their base failed to turn out to vote is squarely on them. The fact that they are often so spineless (really, Ms Grimes, you th ought that dodging the question of whether you voted for Obama was going to help your election chances?) is also their fault. But they also got zapped by the electoral geography- they got the perfect storm of having to defend so many vulnerable Senate seats. As Chris said, in 2 years the GOP is going to have even more seats to defend. If they go into 2016 with 40+ vetoed attempts to kill ACA and no progress on immigration reform, the smack the Dems took will look like a love tap in comparison to what awaits the GOP.

        You’ve been warned. Ignore that at your own peril.

    • Houston-stay-at-Homer says:

      I don’t know buzz….2010 was kind of a bloodbath for the Dems, and what appears to be the highwater year for the TP folk, yet 2012 worked out pretty well for Democrats.

      Other than the margins being a little out of whack in some races, what exactly is surprising to you (or anyone) about these election results?

      If you are surprised by the results or seeing a wave of conservatism sweeping the country, you’ve not been paying attention for the last forty years or so.

      • kabuzz61 says:

        But gaining seats in the house and taking the senate in 2014 isn’t a bloodbath??? Your logic is amazing.

      • johngalt says:

        His point, which apparently flew over your head, is that losses in midterms in 2010 had no effect on 2012, when Obama coasted to victory. Likewise, the 2014 midterms are unlikely have any real effect in 2016.

      • Houston-stay-at-Homer says:

        Buzz…I haven’t looked at the final numbers, but I think 2010 was even worse for the Democrats. However, if it makes you happy, both elections were horrific, bloodbaths for the Democrats that have sent them all into fetal positions sucking their thumbs.

        Midterm elections with an unpopular president…I’m shocked there is gambling in this establishment.

        You seem to be missing the main thrust of my point.

        Obama coasted to victory in 2012, with Senate and House elections also going to the Democrats.

        What about the elections this week gives you more hope about turning 2016 in favor of the GOP? Which Democrat voting states that you need to flip in 2016 look better for the GOP today than they did last week?

        Making small pockets of the country more red doesn’t really help you get to the 270 electoral results.

      • kabuzz61 says:

        My favorite rage/hater bubba, I don’t have faith in any party. Both major party’s take care of their ability to win their base over what is good for the country. I have stated that many, many times.

        I do believe having a GOP house and senate is good so at least bills will go through and if Obama vetoes them, well, we’ll see how the democratic senators agree with that. But the main point at least there will be movement. Reid did not put for vote on the floor of the senate any house bill so there wasn’t even a start date on the debate and compromise.

        But the bad think for the dem’s is changing the rules for appointments.

        As far as predicting the 2016 race, can’t even come close to saying one way or the other. If the GOP performs well and the dems/Obama doesn’t that would be good for them. But Obama’s press conference yesterday was like he was in denial of the election and he through in some arrogance.

      • bubbabobcat says:

        Or perhaps you’re the one in denial and not Obama as you have demonstrated time and again here buzzy.

        Continue to ignore reality and facts and hate on buzzy. That’s all you have ever had and that’s all you really want so blithely thumbsuck to your heart’s delight. The world will continue to move forward without you.

    • bubbabobcat says:

      So buzzy has been screaming non stop that the GOP doesn’t represent him and the Tea Party is an insurgent wing of the GOP and doesn’t represent the whole GOP, but after an election win, the flaming hypocritical cat whiplashes to being a die hard Republican (again) and somehow all these Republican wins were Tea Party driven when they were pretty much all knocked out in the Repub primaries?


      Wingnuts never cease to amaze me with their floating “logic” and “facts”.

  4. Anse says:

    Here’s a good story on Slate about how a strict fixation on ideology hampers Republican efforts to govern, and why Democrats are able to achieve longer-lasting policy objectives bit by bit. I’m posting it because Sternn and others around here love to insist that Democrats are radical extremists. This piece was written by a Republican, btw:

  5. flypusher says:

    You will probably like this guy’s take, Chris:

    Some of the regulars here, not so much.

  6. BigWilly says:

    We should expect the power play to begin shortly. There will be an attempt to shake up GOP leadership. I can’t really say who will prevail. Ultimately the party of Lincoln may split.

    A 150 year plus corporate life is remarkable, but sometimes you gotta fold. This won’t benefit the Democrats because the split will be between moderate conservatives and the fire breathing dragons on the far right.

    They’re already deploying the rhetoric of “Mushy middle.”

    I suppose it’s just bound to get ooogly.

    • CaptSternn says:

      I heard an opinion today that Boehner now has enough republicans in the house to marinalize the tea party movement. We shall see.

    • BigWilly says:

      Dude, I volunteered for Pat Buchanan in the 90’s. I didn’t see the great caveat of life 20 years ago.

      But there may be times when I need a state.

  7. CaptSternn says:

    It will be interesting to look at the numbers of voters turning out. I can’t find anything right now excepton early voting in Texas (Texas being the only one I am searching on right now) and the turnout seems to be very much in line with 2010.

    Other reports show that the turnout is higher in strongly red counties and the same or lower in strongly blue counties. Texas democrats also reported that the non-white vote was up by 45%, which if true, is very, very bad for democrats considering how badly they lost in Texas because it means many of those votes were for republicans.

    The LP candidate for governor of Texas got 1.41% of the vote. That seems about the average to the LP candidate. Would be nice if they could do better, maybe 4% ot 5%, but I think they have lost a lot of votes due to the tea party movement.

    Another interesting thing to look at it is Davis’ percentage of the vote, 39.94%. She and Battleground Texas sought to show that democrats were gaining in Texas by doing better than White did four years ago, but White got 42.3% of the vote. Abbott got 59.25% of the vote, while in 2010 Perry got 55%.

    Doesn’t look like Texas will be turning blue any time soon as it is getting deeper into the red. That is good news for Texas.

    I caught a little bit of the Hannity show on the way home. His take was that republicans didn’t win like in 2010, this was more about firing democrats. That may be so in some cases, but not all or even most.

    The republicans better step up now so that people will be voting FOR them in 2016 rather than against them or against democrats. If they don’t, democrats will have a really good chance at keeping the oval office and winning back at least the senate.

    Mitch McConnell better grow a spine, or else the tea party movement might forcibly insert one for him. I didn’t look into what Bubba said about him, I will take Bubba’s word on this one. Basically McConnell is stating a full and unconditional surrender to Obama, and that will not cut it. Not after finally handing the senate to the GOP and gaining in the house.

    • CaptSternn says:

      To the point of democrats losing ground in Texas, the site provided this link showing the counties democrats lost between the 2010 governor election and the 2014 election.

      • Crogged says:

        Other things you won’t see, “Divorced Woman Admitting to Abortion Named Leader of Southern Baptist Convention”.

        She ran a bad campaign, because she was looking for a job and said what she believes a majority of the forty percent of Texans who bother to vote want to hear, like a job interview when you haven’t worked in six months and are worried about how to feed the family.

        So rather than be straight up and say “I don’t really worry about the damn Mexicans”, she parroted the same drivel we’ve been hearing for twenty years and further about protecting our borders, then on the other side of her mouth about how proud she is about said Mexicans.

        She did the same good enough to set the stage to lose again strategy which the Dems in Texas have done since 1980, when Dems were cheerleaders at Texas A&M before becoming Republicans.. I’m hard headed and think a public office seeker should take an issue head on and say what they feel in order to convince someone they should at least listen to you, before they choose to do what they have always chosen to do.

      • kabuzz61 says:

        Like “I am going to focus like a laser on jobs” then spend a year working on only the Obamacare plan that a majority to american doesn’t want.

      • CaptSternn says:

        Crogged, I won’t bother with the SBC thing again. A great many Baptist Churches do not participate in that convention.

        But she probably drove more Texans away from the Democratic Party in Texas with her stance on abortions. She made that clear with her filibuster, so she didn’t really have to say anything more about it. Her claim to fame hurt the democrats in Texas.

        Thing is, the GOP is doing pretty good nationwide over the past two decades. While they had some presidents and occasionally gained control of the senate or house once in a while, they were really the minority party for several decades.

        That started to change about 20 years ago when the GOP started winning statewide elections in Texas and won control of congress in 1994. Granted, Clinton won a second term, but the GOP held congress until the 2000 elections when they lost the senate. They got it back in 2002 and held congress and the oval office for four years, then democrats came back into power in 2006.

        I really think it was the wars that got democrats back into power, then into absolute and total control in 2008. In a sad sort of way, I wanted that to happen so that people would see what the true colors of the democrats. They have spent many years still blaming republicans, but that is wearing thin these days. It will almost completely evaporate over the next two years if congress does what it should between now and then. Only the most far left extremists would still blame republicans at that point, if the reublicans do what needs to be done.

        I have some hope for that, but sadly not a lot of confidence after McConnell announced his surrender to the losing party, and Boehner maybe having enough establishment republicans and support from democrats to override the tea party movement.

        And that last point may be the biggest problem the tea party movement is facing for the short term. We failed to win a lot of primaries. Yes, we pulled the establishment to the right, and yes, we will vote for republicans in the general election. But that may have empowered the GOP establishment to work with democrats to pull the establishment back to the left of center to disenfrachise and marginalize the tea party movement.

        We might well have shot ourselves in the foot in the national scene for the time being, over the next two years or longer. We could end up with the Democratic Paty and the GOP establishment back in power, what Lifer and others like to refer to as the Dixiecrats.

    • tuttabellamia says:

      Forcibly insert a spine? [cringe and wince] Sounds violently intrusive and invasive. Better to let him grow or harden his own spine as he sees fit.

      • tuttabellamia says:

        Politicians are public servants, not public slaves. They should not lose their autonomy just because they are in public office, and they should be free to perform their duties as they see fit, according to the circumstances. If we don’t like what they do or who they are, we vote them out.

      • CaptSternn says:

        And we hold their feet to the fire and expect them to do what we elected them to do, not immediately announce surrender to the party that lost.

      • tuttabellamia says:

        Now I have a mental picture of Mitch McConnell getting a spine forcibly inserted into his back, while his feet are being held to fire.

    • johngalt says:

      It was absolutely about firing Democrats, or rather, incumbents of the president’s party. National polls suggest voters approve of the generic Democratic party slight more than the generic Republican one, by maybe 4-5%. They also voted to raise the minimum wage in some pretty red states. This was a typical, “we’re tired of the two-term president” election, which has been the rule over the last century.

      The Tea Party movement has no ability to insert anything into anyone, except perhaps for their foot into their mouths. If McConnell wants to get anything done, he’ll figure out how to move the line of compromise towards the GOP, but centrism is the end game here. That’s what Americans want.

      • CaptSternn says:

        No, John. Lifer has claimed ownership of the DNC and the Dixiecrats. The tea party movement is different. The democrats have been the party of “NO”. Obama has told people they have to sit at the back of the bus. He is the one that said, “I won”. Well, his party lost. His policies lost. His racist views have lost. If your “Messiah” is to govern, he better get used to to the rejection.

        Elections have consequences. If Obama, your “messiah”, wants to get anything done, “he will figure out how to move the line of compromise”. Drop the far left extremism. I doubt your “messiah” can do that. He will just remain the spoiled, immature petulant brat, and democrats will follow.

      • bubbabobcat says:

        Yawwwwwwwwn. Nothing of value to see here from Cappy as usual.

      • johngalt says:

        What are you talking about?

  8. kabuzz61 says:

    Wow! Noticing a lot of sore loser whines going on. But it seems your views are in the minority. Why is that? I know, you guys are smarter then the rest of the country. Obama is rejected. His reign is over. Republicans have to lead.

    Just quit whining. It’s unseemly.

    • flypusher says:

      How many votes does it take to override a veto?

      • Crogged says:

        My favorite-the editors of the National Review published “The Governing Trap” for the newly elected majority. If you do anything positive now, it’s BAD for election results in a scant two years from now. More, endlessly undescribed in any detail whatsoever, ‘alternatives to Obamacare’, which are well received by those receiving Medicare now or in a few short years…….

        Just when I thought irony was a dying concept in America…………it pulls me back in.

        And I thought deficit hawks were the only ones who could use the words, ‘kicking the can down the road…’

      • fiftyohm says:

        corgged – Have William F. Buckley kill your spider.

      • Crogged says:

        I don’t know if the man who furiously resisted the Birchers and went into international waters to see for himself all the fuss about marijuana would recognize his magazine.

        But I can take my own medicine. I mean, the stock market and the overall economy did grow despite whatever happened politically from 2008 until now. Shouldn’t it be the same if we elect Republican’s to change everything or is the business climate only uncertain and chaotic if Dems want to change things?

        The long arc of history and a scotch are comforting things.

      • CaptSternn says:

        Crogged, if you are starting the republican control of the federal government at this point, then you have to start the democratic control after the 2006 elections. Can’t have it one way for one party and another way for the other party. Now tell us again, what did democrats inherit in January 2007? Right, 4% economic growth and 4.6% unemployment rate.

      • CaptSternn says:

        And yes, that is how I measure it. Have already been through that point with John.

      • Crogged says:

        Next on Drunk History, “How Did The English Survive The Magma Crater?”

      • johngalt says:

        Yes, you’ve been through it with me, and your position is still idiotic, but we’ll hold you to your insanity.

      • CaptSternn says:

        John, seems Crogged shares my view on who controls the federal government. Is he also insane? Or will you be blaming the president for the next two years?

      • Crogged says:

        My ‘point’, as it were, is the actual direction of our economy and it’s ups and downs is immune from the party affiliation of the current holders of the positions in Federal government, executive and legislative. I’m certainly not claiming that political decisions regarding financial market regulation, or making you buy safe and economical products via regulatory fiat, don’t have results, but that they are usually long after said regs or market interventions have been made.

        But economies falter, people lose jobs and because a modern economy is interconnected, the trickle can become a tsunami. A government then responds, because the voters have lost jobs, homes and hopes for the future.

        Despite Obama and all his policies after the faltering, participants in the stock market did well, anyone who bet the farm on ‘deficits’ causing a spike in bond rates, lost the farm. One would think, a doubling, and more, of the value of shares of America’s publicly traded companies, the amount of government debt declining and more people finding jobs during the term of a President would lead to an overall ‘optimistic’ view of the direction of the country, but it hasn’t. Some of the reason must be the people didn’t find better jobs. Other reasons may be they aren’t optimistic that the changes made will result in a more stable economy, they will lose their jobs and fortunes again. There are people who have claimed things are going to go horribly bad because of the policies and we are now holding our breath, for the seventh year in a row, for horrible inflation and people to stop ‘investing’ in the US via the bond markets.

        Still waiting.

        But a lot of people who believe our nations direction is wrong voted on Tuesday and won. They can reverse the policies and things will get better than the horrors we’ve endured since 2008, people receiving help in affording insurance they can keep despite losing a job and the resultant loss of freedom. I’m always optimistic about the future, mostly because I’m always wrong.

      • fiftyohm says:

        Hey crogged – The William F. Buckley quip was just a funny line from the very funny movie, “Annie Hall”, when Alvy goes over to Annie’s apartment to kill a spider “the size of a Buick”. She hands him a copy of the National Review with which to smash it. Being the stereotypical liberal, New York Jew, Alvy looks at it and says, “Well, why don’t you have William F. Buckley kill your spider?” While i remain a great admirer of the late Buckley’s intellect, my comment was really no deeper than that!

      • Crogged says:

        Went right over my head and the movie is one of my favorites (but only Crimes and Misdemeanors will stand up to time). Dang, should have caught that-but stuck in my sturm and drang……..

        The mood is nearly over, I don’t think Dan Patrick can kick me out of Texas if I don’t go to church 10 times this year.

        In another the visual was the National Review at a newsstand, but hanging with what would have been considered porn–Bananas?

        I’ve been watching Key and Peele on CC–they push boundaries and are pretty dang funny. Jordan Peele has great presence and a voice which can really do some thangs………he did a skit as a very strange sick kid talking to a doctor and a Make A Wish person–aww man, it’s great.

  9. bubbabobcat says:

    Mitch McConnell is in the middle of a live press conference. He has definitively stated “there will be no government shutdown or default on the debt”.

    Maybe saner heads will prevail finally.

    • Crogged says:

      Did Tsar Cruz agree with him?

    • flypusher says:

      I’m holding him to those promises. They can’t override any vetoes, so they need to not waste time with such nonsense.

    • goplifer says:

      Heard his comments. He is utterly delusional. Why do these guys never learn. It is absolutely astounding that this deep into the Obama era a seemingly competent guy like McConnell can still convince himself that the nutjobs in that caucus can be brought to heel.

      He needs to spend the evening having drinks with John Boehner. The inmates are gonna run that asylum.

      • flypusher says:

        I recommend popcorn futures.

      • Crogged says:

        I don’t understand, Obama caused the debt showdown because he is an incompetent mastermind of all dark and evil. Good times are coming and we will have a new word, ‘ment’, after removing the letters ‘govern’.

      • rightonrush says:

        Ted Cruz is foaming at the mouth for McConnell’s job. We will see if McConnell is strong enough to stop the crazies, I don’t think he can, but I hope I’m wrong.

      • johngalt says:

        McConnell will be the next Majority leader. If push comes to shove and some nut job like Cruz makes a serious challenge, McConnell will bribe the Dems to support him, because the alternative is so much worse for them.

  10. bubbabobcat says:

    Here’s a little historical perspective. Or Democratic thumbsucking. However you characterize it. I’ll accept both.

    “The U.S. Senate election, 1986 was an election for the United States Senate in the middle of Ronald Reagan’s second presidential term. The Republicans had to defend an unusually large number of freshman Senate incumbents who had been elected on President Ronald Reagan’s coattails in 1980. Democrats won a net of eight seats, defeating seven freshman incumbents and regaining control of the Senate for the first time since 1980.”,_1986

    Santayana is your buddy.

  11. kabuzz61 says:

    “Well Democrats, let us not engage in delusions; we got whipped. But we knew heading into it that it was bound to happen. There is no need for us to engage in hysterical wailing and gnashing of teeth. This is democracy, in all its messy glory. We will live to fight and vote another day.” Anse

    The above is about the most mature acceptance I have seen. The rest of you are parsing and trying to make excuses for the drubbing the democratic party received.

    What you fail to do is ask yourself why so many people disliked the dem’s this time? Also, unlike some other racists here, I do not believe that only white people get stuck in their ways. That comment is so racist but you don’t even get it.

  12. johngalt says:

    This is mostly off-topic, but border security was a big part of this election, so maybe it has some relevance. I just read a factlet that the number of Border Patrol agents had doubled in the last 10 years. The shocking part was that the U.S. Border Patrol is now the same size as the active-duty Canadian army.

    • fiftyohm says:

      JG – The Canadian Forces are composed of about 68,000 regulars and 27,000 primary reservists. The latest figures from the US CBP indicate about 22,000 agents. Now, is this number appropriate given the ‘threat’? Debatable – but the factoid seems a bit of an exaggeration. Canada’s Canada Border Services Agency employs 14,000. The population ratio is ~9:1.

      The IRS employs 90,000.

    • johngalt says:

      I took that stat from an article in the Economist a few weeks ago and it is indeed true, if one parses words carefully. The active duty Canadian Army is about 21,600 strong, with another 5,000 in the “Canadian Rangers”. The 68,000 number you mention is the total number (Army, Navy, Air Force).

      US CBP employs 65,000 people, including about 22,000 field agents, about the same number of “officers” that work ports of entry, and support personnel.

    • Crogged says:

      I remember when Buzz first commented about the immigrant surge and the diseased, criminal, or saintly, depending on your political persuasion, hordes being housed near the border. Some time this last spring?

      Every other Abbot advert was the problem of the border, Obama doing nothing, but no worries, MORE guys are coming to protect us!

      But Kabuzz didn’t have this story from watching Fox News (he doesn’t) but from (a) a principled and nuanced review of the emails he was receiving or (b) he met one real person who had met at least one real person from across the border? I may know a teacher who might have some students from there and I don’t think she has emailed Abbot demanding protection.

      Or a raise.

      Because what good are teachers when you have the Spanish Inquisition? We know if we don’t raid the rainy day fund to pay for roads, then you might have to use the money for teaching people what an automobile looks like.

      And not a single mention of how we will protect our culture, legacy and principles from Taco Bell, the first sign of the apocalypse coming from New York City.

      • kabuzz61 says:

        If you don’t know about it, I guess it didn’t happen. Good logic. Ostrich’s have used it forever.

  13. Crogged says:

    I used to get emails from my relatives, until November 2010. I finally did a reply all on one issue, that somehow in 2010 Obama was responsible for ‘higher taxes’. I called bullshit and since these were flesh and blood people who knew me as flesh and blood, well one of them did reply. “I didn’t know that” when confronted with the fact in 2010 our dreaded ‘stimulus’ consisted of large portion of tax cuts, that the sitting President had actually CUT taxes. I dropped off the emails, because I didn’t believe.

    I really don’t want a Democratic Rove. I do believe in the long arc of justice, despite reading comments here about how the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery or the only response to 14 million people in our land is to somehow come up with the men and guns to send them ‘home’.

    Texas isn’t Mississippi, simply because of the large amount of black sticky stuff that fuels the Western world under our soil. This blessing has created a large amount of highly educated people who eloquently defend many notions about the world by ignoring the blessings we receive from the black sticky stuff under our soil.

    But I do agree that the public Southern Democrats are some of the worse thinking campaigners we have ever seen. The Texas Governor debates were painful to watch, maybe there’s something soul destroying about seeking offices beyond County Commissioner.

    On the bright side, the Republican Presidential debates are coming. Dissonance of awe inspiring proportion, what a spectacle!

  14. johngalt says:

    My biggest disappointment is the Lt. Gov. race. Say whatever you want about Leticia van der Putte, she is a decent and honest woman. That she lost to the basest of hucksters demonstrates that the majority of Texas voters couldn’t care less about what kind of person they elect, just that they have an “R” next to their name. It’s Yellow Dog Republicanism, but of course Texas knows a lot about yellow dog politics.

    • Anse says:

      Voters choosing Patrick over Dewhurst in the primaries says a lot about how nuts the state GOP has become. It’s a great example of that “Baptist Iran” that Chris mentioned. Patrick does not belong anywhere near public office.

    • rightonrush says:

      I could never bring myself to vote for Dan Patrick. Hell, Dan Patrick makes Louie Gohmert, Shelia Jackson Lee, and Michelle Bachmann look sane.

    • rightonrush says:

      I’m a member of
      “Look at my arms, you will find no party hand-cuff on them.” – Davy Crockett

    • flypusher says:

      Same here. If there could have been one race where there was major cross over voting, I was hoping it was that one. I’m thinking of one of Chris’ past posts about how some people don’t realize they have a problem until they wake up in the gutter. This well could be that political gutter moment for TX right here. But it comes with a 4 year hangover.

      • kabuzz61 says:

        Come down off your cross and quit whining. It is unbecoming. To think a majority of the electorate is wrong while you are right shows you have a very huge ego..

      • bubbabobcat says:

        Still lacking that mirror eh buzzy?

        Obama was elected TWICE by a larger percentage of the electorate and yet YOU whine incessantly for the past 6 years. Nope. No “huge ego” there.

        Glad to see your abject hypocrisy is intact as ever buzzy, no matter what the election results are.

  15. johnofgaunt75 says:

    Massachusetts has a history of electing Republican governors to provide a check on the power of Democrats in the State House. Martha Coakley is also just a flawed candidate and Charlie Baker is a very moderate Republican (the kind that Massholes like). So I am not surprised.

    Maryland is a different story. Larry Hogan is pretty conservative on fiscal issues which will be interesting in a state where people like relatively high spending on education, health, transportation and environmental protection. Hogan is a real estate investor who has a history of fighting environmental laws meant to protect the Chesapeake Bay and regulations to protect green space (something Maryland has traditionally supported).

  16. bubbabobcat says:

    My observations and whines Chris:

    The lazy indifferent Democrats get what they deserve. You can call it spin, but it was not a shellacking. Just about all the results were extremely close. Except for the wingnut caliphate of Texas of course. My biggest disappointment was Leticia Van de Putte not being able to beat Mullah Patrick. As Chris noted, that is where the power lies and we gave it to the craziest person in Texas. Again, we get what we deserve. If the Hispanic and minority population are that uninvolved with their own future, you are really going to enjoy the next 4 years in Texas.

    And I have to give credit to the national Republican Party for their discipline in learning their lessons from 2010 and 2012 and slapping down (most) of their teabagging wingnuts in the primary pigpen to be able to eke out all these election victories. Chris should take heart that it appears (initially) that the GOP may have moderated a little. Only time will tell. I hope Thad Cochran appreciates what the Black voters gave him and finally legislates as a moderate for all residents of his state of Mississippi.

    Glad I had bought a lot of cheap beer to cry in.

    • bubbabobcat says:

      And congratulations Chris on Bruce Rauner’s victory last night.

    • Anse says:

      My disappointment with Democrats is not just our lack of turnout, but also the way our candidates bailed on our president and seemed to be campaigning in self-defense. We need to stop this bad habit of ours and be proud of our platform and the good work we’re attempting to do. The Right has been allowed to take over the debate over our president and by extension, our party. It’s got to stop. Somehow we have to find a way to make a strong stand without becoming the shrill, crazy, liberal version of the Tea Party.

      • goplifer says:

        Democrats desperately need a Karl Rove. He mastered the now-classic tactic of taking my candidate’s weakness and attacking on it.

        Best example was the swift boat campaign. I’ve got a candidate who hid behind his rich father while my opponent volunteered to go to Vietnam, lead a combat unit, and came back decorated and injured.

        Rove took a collection of lies, repackaged them, and used the emerging power of social media distortion to convert that weakness into a line of attack. It is the single most brilliant political campaign in modern history.

        Meanwhile Democrats have a booming economy, unemployment near Reagan era-lows, declining deficits, historically low taxes, a dead Bin Laden, a record bull market, and long years without a foreign terrorist attack. And they are apologizing as fast as they can.

        What a bunch of weenies.

      • Crogged says:

        Go over to Sullivan’s “Dish”-a lot of great articles. I like the below when I hear complaints about the ‘direction’ of our country. Old white people get stuck in their ways and I know because I am one. Our beliefs are immune from evidence until evidence turns physical and smacks our face or puts a hole in the wallet, the human condition under which we all operate.

        “Alabama wasn’t going to vote differently today if Obamacare had rolled out smoothly. Texas, Mississippi or South Dakota wouldn’t vote differently if the stock market under Obama had increased from 7,949.09 to 17,366.24, a growth of 218% in less than six years (it has), or unemployment fell below 6% (it has), or average gas prices were $3/gallon (it is), or GDP was growing at 3.5% (it is).

        In the meaningful sense, this isn’t a divided country “across the dinner table.” This is a regional division, and it is growing.”

      • bubbabobcat says:

        “What a bunch of weenies.”

        Great summation Chris.

        I would love to kick a lot of Democratic weenie asses this morning rather than any Republican. Well maybe Dan Patrick too out of principle.

        I hate to give credit to any nasty Rovesputian tactic but it worked, didn’t it?

      • tuttabellamia says:

        The Dems need a bad ass, larger-than-life character, another Ann Richards or LBJ, or a rugged, down-to-earth minority.

      • bubbabobcat says:

        We did Tutt. It was Leticia. And no one paid attention. Including the national Democratic party machine. I hope she continues to run and stay involved.

      • objv says:

        Tutt, it’s hard not to gloat and pity the Democrats when Republicans have all that and more in Ted Cruz.

      • tuttabellamia says:

        OV, i may have to start watching tv again. It’s hard for me to detect swagger in politicians by just reading about them or hearing little snippets of them or about them on the radio.

      • kabuzz61 says:

        Tutt, listen to Cruz speak. He is very well educated, articulate and pragmatic. You can always tell when a republican is doing the right thing if the liberals here denigrate him or her.

    • fiftyohm says:

      Bubba – With all due respect, one should never, ever drink cheap beer. Ever. For any reason. Kindly do not post such things in the future.

      And I echo your comment to Chris re: Rauner. Illinois is composed of 102 counties. Quinn won in Cook county. *Only* in Cook County. Wow. Now recognize here that Chicago is more than ten times the size of the next largest city by population, but it still comprises only about 10% of the state’s population. It seems to me a near perfect example of the urban/everywhere else divide in America. Here in Canada, it’s even more pronounced..

      • texan5142 says:

        fiftyohm says:
        November 5, 2014 at 11:56 am
        Bubba – With all due respect, one should never, ever drink cheap beer. Ever. For any reason. Kindly do not post such things in the future.

        Preach it fiftyohm.

      • bubbabobcat says:

        Fitty, ya gotta slum it every once in a while. Any credit for it being Lone Star? Don’t know why but it’s comforting especially when you’re just watching football and guzzling (at home). And dirt cheap. Even cheaper than pisswaters like Miller or Bud.

        When I drink to enjoy beer I like the local brewed Pilsners, Lagers, and Hefeweizens. Anything St Arnold’s not too hoppy but Lawnmower and Weedwhacker are my favorites. Really love No Label Brewery out of a former grain silo in Katy. Great party there every Saturday also. Love their seasonal jalapeno ale.

        Haven’t found a good domestic Hefe that compares with the thick real ones in Germany but No Label’s is passably decent.

      • fiftyohm says:

        5142 – 😉

        Bubba – A good selection. I’m more an ale guy myself Not much a “Wheatie” either. In addition to Paulaner Hefe, Franziskaner, and Hoegaarden, Mrs. Ohm is fond of Purple Haze. (The beer!) Gonna brew her a batch of blackberry wheat when we get back up here in the spring.

      • texan5142 says:

        Try a Woodcut sometime.

        I am also a fan of Deschutes Brewery.

        Black Butte Porter

        Life is too short to drink cheap beer.

      • fiftyohm says:

        Gosh Texan – I’ll have to walk 3 blocks to the downtown Spec’s to try those in a couple of weeks. Thanks!

      • texan5142 says:

        Downtown Specs, that is the mother ship is it not?

      • texan5142 says:

        …….and you are most welcome 🙂

      • johngalt says:

        I’m not sure why people are upset about drinking cheap beer. Clearly one should spend no time with bad beer, but if there is a sale on Karbach, Dog’s Head, or Harpoon, I’m not going to insist on spending more money for the sake of not being cheap.

    • glennkoks says:

      Life is to short to drink cheap beer.

    • glennkoks says:

      I watched the results of the election come in sipping a nice and strong St. Arnold Christmas Ale.

  17. Anse says:

    The one hope I have about Dan Patrick is remembering that many of us were pretty concerned about David Dewhurst, and he actually turned out to be almost reasonable. Of course Patrick is in another category of right wing nut, so it remains to be seen what he does with his newfound power.

  18. Turtles Run says:

    Did anyone notice that the City of Denton, TX voted to ban fracking? This a bit of weird news that really stands out in the state.

    • goplifer says:

      I did see that. Based on my experience with Dallas, sounds like just typical NIMBY stuff. We love fracking – for you. Not going to have it under my manicured yard.

    • glennkoks says:

      There is a rather persistent rumor going around that the Saudi’s are doing their best to ban fracking.

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